This site was created by Larry Shively who is researching the history of the Shively families. The goal is to have a site where all Shively researchers can share and ask questions in regards to their Shively lines. The largest majority of the Shively family records are located in Pennsylvania, Ohio and Indiana. There are early records of Shively's also in Virginia and Kentucky. There are not many established Shively lineages back to Europe. There are documented lineages to Switzerland and Germany. Through the sharing of information from all of our research it is desired that all can learn about our Shively families.

Sunday, March 25, 2018

John A. Shively, Son Of Carl "Charles" Albert Schaeufele And Millie Florence Sater; Florida To Oregon To California

Charles A. Schaeufele/Miller Florence Sater Marriage
Carl "Charles" Albert Schaeufele was born Feb-1858 in Germany and died 12-Sep-1908 in Medford, Jackson County, OR. He is buried in Eastwood IOOF Cemetery. Per information from the 1900 census he immigrated in 1882.  Carl "Charles" Albert Schaeufele was married on 4-Nov-1890 in Fort Myers, Lee County, FL to Millie Florence Sater.  Millie was born Dec-1875 in Kentucky, a daughter of Joshua F. W. Sater and Lucinda Breedlove.  Millie may have married again after the death of Charles. Court documents from 1912 list her as Mille Schaeufele Miles and military papers for son, John A. Shively, list her as Minnie Gibson.

Located on the 1900 Jackson County, OR census is the family of Charles Schaeufele born in Germany, Feb-1858, immigrated 1882; wife Mille born in Kentucky, Dec-1875, married 9 years, having 4 children and 4 children living; daughter Pearl S. born in Florida Dec-1892; son John A. born in Florida Oct-1894; daughter Viola S. born in Florida Mar-1897 and daughter May S. born in Oregon May-1900.  Listed on the 1910 South Medford Precinct, Jackson County, OR census is the family of Millie Shively age 36 widowed, daughter Viola age 13, daughter May age 9, son Carl age 4 and son Fredrick age 2.

John A. Shively was the son of Carl "Charles" Schaeufele and Millie Sater.  He was born Oct-1894 in Florida and died Jan-1969 in Olivehurst, Yuba County, CA. John A. Shively was married to Helen McVeigh Chinn on 2-May-1922 in Los Angeles, CA. Helen was the daughter of William McVeigh and Ida Fry. This was John's first marriage and Helen's second marriage.

The picture at the left was taken from an article found in The Kentucky Post, Saturday, April 29, 1922:
Cupid Wins By Mail
Newport Girl Weds Man She Had Never Seen - Sequel To War Romance
Miss Helen Rose, 25, of 810 Saratoga St., Newport, was to say "I do" Saturday afternoon to a man she had never seen before.
And when she speaks the words another war romance will be culminated.
Five years ago John A. Shively, a marine, passed thru Newport on an L. & N. train for the western front. Miss Rose and her mother, Mrs. Ida Rose, a widow, cheered him and his pals on.
Shively grabbed a paper, wrote his name and address on it and threw it from the window of the moving train.
"Please write", he called to Miss Rose as she picked up the paper. She did. Then he answered. As letter passed between them the words of love were spoken.
"I believe he is a man", said Mrs. Rose as she awaited a telegram telling her of the marriage. Like her daughter, she has never seen Shively.
Shively expects to leave the marine service in June, after which he and Miss Rose will motor from Los Angeles, Cal., where the marriage will take place, to Newport. The bridegroom is now stationed at San Pedro, Cal.
"She is the best pal I've ever had", wrote Shively to Mrs. Rose in asking forgiveness for asking Miss Rose to come west to be married. "When I was in France I thought the entire world but her had gone back on me. Her letters are a part of my live. I know I love her".

Listed on the 1920 Newport City, Campbell County, KY census is the household of Charles McVeigh age 25, mother Ida Rose age 53 widow, brother Raymond age 23, sister Helen Chinn age 21 divorced and nephew Frank Chinn age 5. Located on the 1930 Newport, Campbell County, KY census is the household of Ida Bennett age 63 widow, son Cliford McVeigh age 36, grandson Frank Chinn age 16, son-in-law John Shively age and daughter Helen age 33. Listed on the 1940 Yuba County, CA census is John Adam Shively age 44 and wife Helen Ora age 42.

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